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I want to make busts on ocasion of a slightly larger size than my figures .Perhaps a 4-5 inch head.

One reason I havent started is that I need some sort of classy way to stand the bust up. Id like a classic bust stand or pedastle,but I dont know where to look or how best to make such a thing with clean lines.  Any tips for that? Like a suplier, a widget that would serve as one or a way to make my own?
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waldablaester Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2008
Hello Nita have you tried candle stands?? You cand find them made out of wood, glas, etc??
Maybe it is possible to sculp the bust around them??
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I havent tried that yet. I am going to look for wood I think because it will be light and safer for shipping. I think it will be possible to sculpt right on top of wood very easily.
Thanks Bodo;)
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terraforms Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008
you might try a stoneyard, they may have some suitable stone already cut.. if it were me i'd do that myself but i have the saws and have done these before for larger pieces
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Interesting idea. Though I dont know if any stone yards. Id love to have rough cut stone or exotic wood. Classy:)

Thank you.
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angstmonkey Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008
one solution to this problem that a friend used was to buy the top of a fence post and a lopped the top off it, [link]
a fence post top like that he used, then removed the ball and placed the sculpt ontop
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh I see.... yeah that is a cool option! You guys are great!

Thank you:)
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ThessalyRose Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Visit a home decor place and look at the candlesticks. You can often find resin candlesticks shaped like small pillars. I've been drooling over them for months but haven't come up with a project to justify buying one. :)
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Its a good idea,but we dont have a home decor store here. Ive been looking online,but most are brass or glass. maybe I can find a nice one and make a mold.
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slenderthunder Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
When I was making life size busts of my family(for my senior show, years ago), I made stands using a wood board for a base and then various size pipes(metal) that screwed together for the armature. It worked quite well for the heavy clay that I was using and as I hollowed out the bust, I could unscrew sections of the pipe. Probably more than you need, but it's one good way to go... :)
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Sounds a lot larger than what I need ,but it possibly could be modified with small brass tubing.
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slenderthunder Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I'm sure pvc would work as well and that comes in all kinds of sizes.
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
ok thanks for the tip
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MistressLegato Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Sculpt one, or check a garden center. They sometimes sell pedestals to put your potted plants on!
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh cool I hadnt though of a potted plant stand! Thank you I will look and see if thers anything suitable!
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cuervoscuro Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Writer
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for sharing your gallery! :)
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futantshadow Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008
have you ever used magic sculp? it is amazing.. its a 2 part epoxy that dries rock hard, and you can build up on it to (use wet clay on top of the dry). It cures in 3-4 hours, so its great for almost any project, and will probably work great for stands. I've done a couple of busts and used it. I also make my large sculptures with it, i buy it from [link] search "magic sculp" and then click on the link and scroll down to "magic-sculp two-part epoxy" i usually buy two 20 lb kits at a time, but you can start smaller to try it!! Oh, and I use super sculpey extra firm grey for fine details on faces and magic sculp for everything else! :)
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Ive never used magic sculpt. Ive only used aves ,but I have teeny jars of it. Just for armatures. But its so droopy Id still need something firm inside to build the epoxy on right? maybe a small block of wood, then carve and sand the epoxy after its hard? Or maybe that screen wire stuff?
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futantshadow Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
hey!! well.. you can just use the magic sculp!! I've built entire people and animals with it. I use armature wire and aluminum foil for the structure then put thin layers of magic sculp around it. It dries really hard so you don't really need any other support. And it is fairly cheap; about $5 per pound, so buy at least 5 pounds to start and if you really get into it then buy the 20 lb kits ;) The magic sculp can be smoothed with water when its wet, and when it dries you can sand it.
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I think what I might try is to sculpt a stand/base in magicscult then mold it for casting. That way I wont have to spend alot of extra time for each one.
Thanks Ill try the aluminum foil as support as it cures.
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futantshadow Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008
what I mean by using aluminum foil; is to make it into a ball (as for a figure head) and put the magic sculp around it (the magic sculp doesn't shrink). Or if you were to make a base/stand, make the aluminum foil into the shape you want the stand; like rectangle or oval, then place magic sculp over that and smooth it out while its wet. Then you can sand afterwards if necessary; or build more wet magic sculp on top of the dry if you wish. Good luck! :)
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah I understood waht you meant. teh sanding might be a bit laborous.but Im sure ill want custom looking shapes sometimes.
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Yayap111 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008
I'd help you out but i don't know a thing. Sorry :(
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
No problem. I just figured theres got to be someone on here whos made one!
Im already booked up with other projects. But Im always diging up new plans.
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fearn Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional General Artist
Could you perhaps build one out of wood, or find a pre-made one then put clay on top? I don't sculpt, so i really don't know!
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Wood would be a fairy good choice except that I dont have planes and that sort of thing for designing it. Its possible to put clay on top ,but sculpting in solid polymer clay wouldnt work. Id need a core of some sort that had some weight so it wouldlnt topple over.
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fearn Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional General Artist
Hmm..... I dunno then. :( I didn't even know that the polymer clay was that heavy! Wow...
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
The polymer isnt heavy, thats why you need something inside. You also cant cure a very thick slab at once you have to work in stages to build up to a thickness.
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fearn Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional General Artist
Ohhh.. I see, so it's like regular clay then.. I'll crack if it's too thick? Or will it just not set?

I want to do some sculpting over the summer.. Nothing like what you do, cause I'm not too great at 3d stuff... probably just pick up some sculpty and have fun. :)
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yes its subject to cracks if too thick or too thin sometimes. Also the thick areas you need to bake longer time for ever 1/4th inch so the inside is in danger of not getting to full temp.

Well you get good by doing. If it ends up being fun for you ...skill and addiction will follow.
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fearn Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional General Artist
i don't know if I truly need another addiction... lol :P
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I was there too. lots of craft stuff I was doing ,but clay wound up being so versatile and making some money. Every once in a while I still see a new thing I want to get into and dont dare!
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artyandy Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008
bake it, that should have read:roll:
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artyandy Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008
You mean you need an armature to sculpt onto?

Are you going to mould the final sculpt, or sculpt in polymer clay and back it?
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I need a sturdy stand that I can attach the bust to. Probaly after sculpting and curing the peuce , though if its a material that can withstand heat I could sculpt right onto it.

Its not going to to be moulded adn woudl be final so , Id probably want more than one if I liked making the bust.
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artyandy Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
Ah, I see.Not an armature, but a base that you can get multiples of.

Don't know of any of them commercially available off hand. Sorry.
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Sleetwealth Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yes a base like classical busts stand on. Often an angled top or part of a pillar.

Im surprised there arnt ready made bases. I guess I will have to find a make do or make my own molded version.
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